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that's the challenge for biden. long before anyone heard of paul ryan we were afraid of paul ryan because we were afraid of what he wants to do to uh you, health care and a heartless approach to balancing the budget. >> when you talk about economic pain and the squeezing of seniors or the fraying of the fabric of the american social compact joe biden can speak with a romance, eloquence and an incredibly compelling narrative. >> but he's always the wild card. >> i expect 20 e-mails from the romney campaign proclaiming everything he said to be a gaffe. >> coming up, the growing chorus of doubt mon goring about the job reports points to a society where facts are debatable. how have conspiracy theorists eroded trust in government? mike rowe here at a ford tell me fiona, who's having a big tire event? your ford dealer. who has 11 major brands to choose from? your ford dealer. who's offering a rebate? your ford dealer. who has the low price tire guarantee... affording peace of mind to anyone who might be in the market for
that's the challenge for biden. long before anyone heard of paul ryan we were afraid of paul ryan because we were afraid of what he wants to do to uh you, health care and a heartless approach to balancing the budget. >> when you talk about economic pain and the squeezing of seniors or the fraying of the fabric of the american social compact joe biden can speak with a romance, eloquence and an incredibly compelling narrative. >> but he's always the wild card. >> i expect 20...
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people give biden such a hard time, he's the gaffe machine. i remember when biden was known as a really good communicator, and you know what? there's a difference between biden and obama and how they are in debates and how they approach crowds. biden looks for the guts of the audience and pitches the message to their guts. i'm sure to see how biden does it. >> he's been there and paul ryan has not. >> i think next time if it's a boring debate, we should bring in herman cain, rick perry and newt gingrich just for fun. >> herman cain would be winning right now according to herman cain. >> you've heard our initial reactions. up next we have reactions from the heartland and the capital. we go to des moines, iowa and go to luke russert in washington to see where one of these candidates will end up. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic
people give biden such a hard time, he's the gaffe machine. i remember when biden was known as a really good communicator, and you know what? there's a difference between biden and obama and how they are in debates and how they approach crowds. biden looks for the guts of the audience and pitches the message to their guts. i'm sure to see how biden does it. >> he's been there and paul ryan has not. >> i think next time if it's a boring debate, we should bring in herman cain, rick...
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you got a little thing for joe biden? explain your piece in politico today about joe biden being sexy. >> we asked the question about whether joe biden is sexy, and it's asked in this context. is he bringing sexy back to the medicare set? basically joe biden has been out on the campaign trail and he flirts a lot. the people that take the best to it are women in 50s, 60, 70. >> i take to it jonathan. >> it works for krystal. >> even younger than that. you're 24, 25, right? >> thank you, thank you. >> we're constantly seeing these pictures with the vice president with his arm over women and leading in really close. >> it's gross. >> it's dramatic. >> does he kiss women on the lips, on the cheek? he grabbed a biker chick and almost pulled her into his lap. he's all over the place. >> jonathan, thanks for looking into it. we appreciate it. >> on top of the important issues. >> thanks, jonathan. >> up next, stumbles, grumbles and did he really just say that moments from another big debates last night. political smackdown massa
you got a little thing for joe biden? explain your piece in politico today about joe biden being sexy. >> we asked the question about whether joe biden is sexy, and it's asked in this context. is he bringing sexy back to the medicare set? basically joe biden has been out on the campaign trail and he flirts a lot. the people that take the best to it are women in 50s, 60, 70. >> i take to it jonathan. >> it works for krystal. >> even younger than that. you're 24, 25,...
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biden and his team? >> well, when they really would like to do is to change the conversation from last week's performance by barack obama, get to change that conversation on thursday, and to really talk specifically about the ryan budget. joe biden told reporters last week that what he's doing is looking at ryan's policies and seeing how he can apply them to the ryan/romney ticket as a whole. what they really would like to do is talk a lot about those ryan fiscal policies. things like kucutting spending, reforming medicare, looking at social security. what biden would like to do is talk a lot about those issues. one issue for the vice president, he hasn't been doing a lot of interviews or interactions with reporters. he hasn't really been questioned on a lot of the claims he makes about the ryan budget on the campaign trail. so it's going to be sort of a new thing for him to be questioned by reporters by the moderator, and by the candidate himself on the claims he's making on how those budget policies wo
biden and his team? >> well, when they really would like to do is to change the conversation from last week's performance by barack obama, get to change that conversation on thursday, and to really talk specifically about the ryan budget. joe biden told reporters last week that what he's doing is looking at ryan's policies and seeing how he can apply them to the ryan/romney ticket as a whole. what they really would like to do is talk a lot about those ryan fiscal policies. things like...
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. >> and also get ahead of it before the vice presidential debate because you know joe biden was going to go after it. still inexplicable why the president didn't use it wednesday night. thank you so much, chris. see you later. joining me now to dig deeper into the jobs data, u.s. economic economist for the president. >> definitely good news in the context of all the bad news in recent months. the headline growth of employment of 114,000 was good but not spectacular. if you dig deeper you find they revised up prior months so running around 150,000 per month, somewhat better not indicative of a economy going into recession, perhaps one getting a little tail wind to it. the drop in the unemployment rate from 8.1% to 7.8%, as you know, sometimes it drons for the wrong reason because people give up looking for work. that was not the case in september, 800,000 people by this measure of employment found jobs, one of the largest increases by that measure in the last eight or nine years. >> mitt romney went after this on the stump today in virginia saying that more people were giving up and th
. >> and also get ahead of it before the vice presidential debate because you know joe biden was going to go after it. still inexplicable why the president didn't use it wednesday night. thank you so much, chris. see you later. joining me now to dig deeper into the jobs data, u.s. economic economist for the president. >> definitely good news in the context of all the bad news in recent months. the headline growth of employment of 114,000 was good but not spectacular. if you dig...
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joe biden. no, don't boo. he's the best thing we got going, guys. >> jimmy, i'm sorry, but if joe biden is the best thing they've got going for them, they must have a terribly mediocre candidate. >> perhaps if that's the case, then the converse is true. perhaps mitt romney is the best thing we have going for us on the democratic side. but that's not the case. what we have, instead, is a president of the united states who has stopped the bleeding of 800,000 jobs a month. whose unemployment rate he inherited is now down. that the economy is growing, tepidly but growing as opposed to contracting and shrinking under the last president. so, if they would like for joe biden to be their biggest asset, have him. i'm all for it. because they won't be able to, in a trillion years, match the former senior senator of delaware, the dean of the senate, if you will. they can't touch him. the reason they can't touch him is because he actually knows what he's talking about. unlike mr. romney or mr. ryan. >> steve s there anyth
joe biden. no, don't boo. he's the best thing we got going, guys. >> jimmy, i'm sorry, but if joe biden is the best thing they've got going for them, they must have a terribly mediocre candidate. >> perhaps if that's the case, then the converse is true. perhaps mitt romney is the best thing we have going for us on the democratic side. but that's not the case. what we have, instead, is a president of the united states who has stopped the bleeding of 800,000 jobs a month. whose...
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joe biden in north carolina and paul ryan on a bus tour in iowa. last night he was in dubuque. the first time at a public campaign event he delivered this line. >> the choice is clear, and here is what we are doing. we are entering the debate phase, the choice phase of this campaign. this choice is ever so clear. >> speaking of choice, has mitt romney's choice of paul ryan paid off? let's ask republican strategist and former gingrich campaign senior advisor david winston and nbc latino contributor, a senior fellow at the university of texas. good morning to both of you. will mitt romney have to and be able to defend paul ryan's budget plan at the debate tomorrow? >> clearly, the selection of paul ryan was an intent to give, sort of fill out this alternative. how was mitt romney going to be an alternative to whatever president obama's policies were. that was a strategic shift from it being just simply a referendum on the president. it's not, it wasn't so much does he have to defend everything paul ryan did? it's how does paul ryan supplement what mitt romney is going to say in t
joe biden in north carolina and paul ryan on a bus tour in iowa. last night he was in dubuque. the first time at a public campaign event he delivered this line. >> the choice is clear, and here is what we are doing. we are entering the debate phase, the choice phase of this campaign. this choice is ever so clear. >> speaking of choice, has mitt romney's choice of paul ryan paid off? let's ask republican strategist and former gingrich campaign senior advisor david winston and nbc...
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that's pressure on biden. a big moment. also, you have to imagine that the debate moderator pressing paul ryan more on the debates on the tax plan. this debate will matter more than the vp debate mattered in the past. >> to be serious, a lot of economic policies being put forth come from paul ryan so does it become more sense in the sense of the overall approach of both of the teams? >> that's a great point. paul ryan was tapped not because he was a popular congressman in the house but been for the past few years the intellectual leader of the republican party so his challenge not only to go up against biden's populace touch but an economic vision for the country while also debating biden. >> well, expectations game played a little bit. i'll give you a quick opportunity. what do you think, robert in who's the advantage to in this debate? >> i think if biden survives with a smile and amble, he'll do well. ryan has to seem like he's smart and presidential. >> perry? >> i think the advantage to biden doing this so many times b
that's pressure on biden. a big moment. also, you have to imagine that the debate moderator pressing paul ryan more on the debates on the tax plan. this debate will matter more than the vp debate mattered in the past. >> to be serious, a lot of economic policies being put forth come from paul ryan so does it become more sense in the sense of the overall approach of both of the teams? >> that's a great point. paul ryan was tapped not because he was a popular congressman in the house...
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if you go way back in history for joe biden that campaign ended. but in the early going in the spring and summer that year, he had a reputation for being a powerful performer for performing well that summer. but you know take that away. there was a lot of unfairness. he was a strong communicator and strong debater. >> look, folks, i know we all don't have access to governor romney's accountant. i thought last night when he said i would like to introduce my accountant to that. i would love to have his accountant. but look, we understand, someone ends up paying for all of this. >> crystal, joe biden has the touch with that sort of thing. he does and that is funny. and that helps. that is always helpful and the other thing that i would note from this performance in 2008 and also from this speech is how loyal he is. nothing is about him. it is about the president and the president's plans and an attack on governor romney. and at that time in 2008. i noticed that palin focused on her record and her family. it was me centered and i can see paul ryan walk
if you go way back in history for joe biden that campaign ended. but in the early going in the spring and summer that year, he had a reputation for being a powerful performer for performing well that summer. but you know take that away. there was a lot of unfairness. he was a strong communicator and strong debater. >> look, folks, i know we all don't have access to governor romney's accountant. i thought last night when he said i would like to introduce my accountant to that. i would love...
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. >> in north carolina, joe biden went off script and said the middle class has been buried the last four years. this morning, they've turned a clip into a web video. >> the middle class in america is hurting. >> middle class has been buried the last four years. >> let me bring in dan rather, anchor and editor of dan rather reports and national journal's white house correspondent. good morning. let's address that video right off the bat. robert gibbs was asked this morning if he's worried about the optics of it. here's what he said. >> if the republicans want to defend the bush administration's response to katrina, i'm sure the president would give them his time during the debate to do that. but look, i am, i have to say i'm a little amazed that as you mentioned, a widely covered speech, likely by people at your network, is somehow caused a cur fluff l five years later. >> i love that. so, dan, i guess question is there is no doubt about this fact that it was covered. it was open to the public. it was talked about during that time. is it smart of the republican party to bring this ba
. >> in north carolina, joe biden went off script and said the middle class has been buried the last four years. this morning, they've turned a clip into a web video. >> the middle class in america is hurting. >> middle class has been buried the last four years. >> let me bring in dan rather, anchor and editor of dan rather reports and national journal's white house correspondent. good morning. let's address that video right off the bat. robert gibbs was asked this...
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joe biden is a very good debater. >> have you ever seen joe biden lose a debate? everyone talks about his gaffes on the road. he makes those some speeches. >> he never loses a debate. weap we were just saying that he beat barack obama every time he debated. >> he had the definitive line against rudy jewel yawnly. giulia giuliani. >> i've got to ask about your candidate's foreign policy address. that's happening today. >> today, virginia military institute. >> i'm looking at some of the previews of the speech. >> which he loves. >> i don't. he's going there on benghazi, talking about iran. does he really need to do this? >> yes, does. >> let me respond to that, you know. what he has done over the last couple weeks is tried, in working on the speech, is to try to step back and look at events in recent weeks and years. iran closer to a nuclear bomb than it has ever been before. syria in chaos. you know, lots of tumult throughout the middle east. the arab spring turning into some sort of dark winter. and he's taking a step back and looking -- this is the world we live
joe biden is a very good debater. >> have you ever seen joe biden lose a debate? everyone talks about his gaffes on the road. he makes those some speeches. >> he never loses a debate. weap we were just saying that he beat barack obama every time he debated. >> he had the definitive line against rudy jewel yawnly. giulia giuliani. >> i've got to ask about your candidate's foreign policy address. that's happening today. >> today, virginia military institute. >>...
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we saw joe biden openly mocking him just a few minutes ago in a speech in iowa. was mocking mitt romney saying that there was a whole bit about how mitt romney has suddenly discovered the middle class and that patented demonstrative way that joe biden can do it. plouffe also called mitt romney -- his performance thee at tricklely aggressive. they're using a euphemism about the next go-around saying the president will certainly be making some adjustments. those are going to have to include to satisfy a lot of people, including some of his core supporters, a much more aggressive stance and hitting back against mitt romney in some of the claims he made last night. >> nbc's mike viqueira, robust as ever. thank you, mike. >> reporter: thank you. >> stay with us. the day's "top lines" are coming up. ♪ [ male announcer ] you've reached the age where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age of knowing how to make things happen. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor i
we saw joe biden openly mocking him just a few minutes ago in a speech in iowa. was mocking mitt romney saying that there was a whole bit about how mitt romney has suddenly discovered the middle class and that patented demonstrative way that joe biden can do it. plouffe also called mitt romney -- his performance thee at tricklely aggressive. they're using a euphemism about the next go-around saying the president will certainly be making some adjustments. those are going to have to include to...
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he can play biden, you, and romney. he's so funny, over the top, playing chris matthews in the yeller. >> you're debating how i answer this question? >> maybe. >> george clooney, that was an outrage. i cannot believe that they would do that to you. i didn't know it was you. >> it's all fun. it's not true but it's all fun. lizz, your thoughts, will joe biden be the guy that is played by sudakis on "saturday night live"? >> i think that's exactly right and i also think paul ryan and with the abs and the p90x and they are going to -- i bet you 10 bucks there's a skit with paul ryan without a shirt on. >> thank you, nia-malika henderson who is my friend and lizz winstead. >>> groundhog day. think about t you're watching "hardball," a place for politics. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. or treat gas with these a
he can play biden, you, and romney. he's so funny, over the top, playing chris matthews in the yeller. >> you're debating how i answer this question? >> maybe. >> george clooney, that was an outrage. i cannot believe that they would do that to you. i didn't know it was you. >> it's all fun. it's not true but it's all fun. lizz, your thoughts, will joe biden be the guy that is played by sudakis on "saturday night live"? >> i think that's exactly right and...
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this was good work by biden. let's listen. >> the irony is rudy giuliani, probably the most underqualified man since george bush to seek the presidency, is here talking about the people here. rudy giuliani, there's only one things he mentioned in a sentence, a noun, a verb, and 9/11. >> i remember that line, very, very well. i had a ryan staffer tell me that they were going back and looking at some of the research, that not only did biden do very well in his debates, but david plouffe, the obama strategist, wrote in his book part of the reason obama picked biden was because he was impressed with his debate performance. he's a 40-year veteran, and he's going to be a capable debater. when joe biden was debating in '87 and '88 when he ran for president the first time, paul ryan was in high school. so there's going to be, i think, a fascinating age gap there on that stage. joe biden is not somebody that's going to come out there and sort of stumble around. it's possible he could commit a gaffe, but the ryan folks tha
this was good work by biden. let's listen. >> the irony is rudy giuliani, probably the most underqualified man since george bush to seek the presidency, is here talking about the people here. rudy giuliani, there's only one things he mentioned in a sentence, a noun, a verb, and 9/11. >> i remember that line, very, very well. i had a ryan staffer tell me that they were going back and looking at some of the research, that not only did biden do very well in his debates, but david...
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joe biden, paul ryan. thanks for being us with tonight. good night from denver. so make your case and you don't want the government to help the economy welcome but don't give he this small-government stuff. come on! [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save you by switching, you'd have like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um" or, "no comment." then there's...
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in some ways i think with joe biden and paul ryan it's going to be an even more damaging conversation if ryan has to obviscate and come up with specifics because he's the numbers guy. >> he's going to be prepared. we'll be prepared. >> he doesn't have enough time it to answer the question, but going back to the theme of the day, what matters, the economy always matters. ever since the cold war it's been about the economy with the possible exception of '04, right? we're in the war of terrorism. >> even in '04 the exit polls showed that even though it was a foreign policy election, it was still about the economy. >> it's always about the economy. foreign policy is at best second or third most important. once again this foreign policy forray into mitt romney it may be a couple days lost. he's not talking about the economy on an area where i think it's impossible to catch up to barack obama. >> i do take the point that he needs to give a speech like this. it's necessary if you're running for president. it's not necessarily sufficient to win the presidency, but it's necessary that you do i
in some ways i think with joe biden and paul ryan it's going to be an even more damaging conversation if ryan has to obviscate and come up with specifics because he's the numbers guy. >> he's going to be prepared. we'll be prepared. >> he doesn't have enough time it to answer the question, but going back to the theme of the day, what matters, the economy always matters. ever since the cold war it's been about the economy with the possible exception of '04, right? we're in the war of...
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i mean same thing. >> coming on the heels of the romney campaign trying to use joe biden's biden-esque turn of phrase the middle class has been buried and you know, biden has walked that back, you know, is it an indictment of the president? look if you're going to fight for the ground on the middle class i don't know that joe biden is the person you want to be sparring against. >> he is by far the best middle class, working-class figure in this race. but to me, the hannity, drudge, obama thing, the ryan thing, i mean, really? this is all they got? i mean, i found the -- i found nothing that obama said in that speech objectionable or disagreeable, similarly, i find ryan's thing not -- i mean there's a sophisticated and legitimate argument to be made about, you know, entitlement and size of government and all that and i didn't find his version of it, so provocative -- >> i will say 30% of the country wants the welfare state this notion that there are people at the bottom of the income ladder that want to stay there because they're lazy -- >> the value judgment. the same kind of value jud
i mean same thing. >> coming on the heels of the romney campaign trying to use joe biden's biden-esque turn of phrase the middle class has been buried and you know, biden has walked that back, you know, is it an indictment of the president? look if you're going to fight for the ground on the middle class i don't know that joe biden is the person you want to be sparring against. >> he is by far the best middle class, working-class figure in this race. but to me, the hannity, drudge,...
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vice president biden. the americans were hobbled by divisi division. the state wanted much more agreement than the white house did. >> with the war fatigue and challenges in syria, a continuing escalating level of violence in afghanistan, there is no appetite to try to fix whatever wasn't finished in iraq? >> well, certainly american forces are not going to go back into iraq. i don't know anyone who's really proposing that. but there -- there are people who think there needs to be more concerted effort to expand american influence in iraq, not just to have -- well, one, to counter the iranians, two, to have influence in iraq, so it becomes a country worthy of all the thousands of american troops who sacrifice their lives there and also to effect the situation in syria. there's a lot of reason for the united states to be more energetically involved in iraq, but that doesn't mean, you know, at this stage, people were talking about sending troops back into iraq. >> michael gordon, the book is "end game." we thank you very much. >> thank you. >> and what p
vice president biden. the americans were hobbled by divisi division. the state wanted much more agreement than the white house did. >> with the war fatigue and challenges in syria, a continuing escalating level of violence in afghanistan, there is no appetite to try to fix whatever wasn't finished in iraq? >> well, certainly american forces are not going to go back into iraq. i don't know anyone who's really proposing that. but there -- there are people who think there needs to be...
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the stakes are raised now for the paul ryan versus joe biden debate. the obama campaign i don't think can afford the perception that they lost two in a row. i would think vice president joe biden's fingernails are beginning to sweat about next wednesday because he's somewhat in the same position as president obama. he's been vice president in for four years. had a lot of things going. been a long time since he's debated. paul ryan has been in the cut and thrust of congress, to be better prepared. however, ryan is in the shoes president obama was in last night and the expectations are high for ryan. i think most people feel that paul ryan will walk joe biden's dog in this debate, and that's a down for him. i would venture that the vice presidential debate may get the largest audience of any vice presidential de debate we've had so far. >> in 2008 with the introduction of sarah palin was the first time the vice presidential debate was ever the highest 01:39:43:rate ed debate. we have this again. >> governor romney, last night, people say he mangled the t
the stakes are raised now for the paul ryan versus joe biden debate. the obama campaign i don't think can afford the perception that they lost two in a row. i would think vice president joe biden's fingernails are beginning to sweat about next wednesday because he's somewhat in the same position as president obama. he's been vice president in for four years. had a lot of things going. been a long time since he's debated. paul ryan has been in the cut and thrust of congress, to be better...
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we've seen the example of joe biden on the trail, joe biden being very smooth, trying to relate and be charming, charm offensive with the female crowd, hang out with the biker ladies. we saw that picture. from a political perspective is he the obama camp's secret weapon or their biggest headache? >> probably a little both. definitely a headache in terms of saying things like the middle class has been buried over the last four years, but in terms of their charm offensive he's somebody who they believe can relate well to working class folks, white working class folks pap tour of delis and diners and places, lunch counters, where working folks are going to eat in the middle of the day. in particular, though, there's a certain set of women i like to call them the medicare eligible set, 65 and over and certainly a little younger than that who obama has had a lot of trouble with. he's got a huge lead among women overall but as women are older, they are less likely to be in his camp. mitt romney actually leading in that 65 and over column by 48% to 43% in the gallup poll in august. joe biden,
we've seen the example of joe biden on the trail, joe biden being very smooth, trying to relate and be charming, charm offensive with the female crowd, hang out with the biker ladies. we saw that picture. from a political perspective is he the obama camp's secret weapon or their biggest headache? >> probably a little both. definitely a headache in terms of saying things like the middle class has been buried over the last four years, but in terms of their charm offensive he's somebody who...
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joe biden has too. of course, congressman paul ryan who chairs the house budget committee also likes to tout his foreign policy chops. >> i have more foreign policy experience coming into this job than president obama did coming into his. >> can you explain how do you have more foreign policy experience than senator obama did. he was on the foreign relations committee. >> norah, i voted to send men and women to war. i've been to iraq and afghanistan. i've met with our troops to get perspectives. i've been to the funerals, i've talked to the widows, talked to the wives, the moms and the dads. that's something. that matters. >> yeah. the sitting vice president shouldn't have much problem landing a blow on a claim like that. though perhaps rather than boxing, it's more accurate to think of thursday night as tag team wrestling with each candidate making the power move that their partner missed. of course, ultimately a vice presidential candidate's relationship to his running mate is more like hulk hogan's b
joe biden has too. of course, congressman paul ryan who chairs the house budget committee also likes to tout his foreign policy chops. >> i have more foreign policy experience coming into this job than president obama did coming into his. >> can you explain how do you have more foreign policy experience than senator obama did. he was on the foreign relations committee. >> norah, i voted to send men and women to war. i've been to iraq and afghanistan. i've met with our troops...
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. >> sarah palin versus joe biden, very good. >> i was bringing up another one. that was lipstick on a pig. >> do you know why she came out and asked him is it okay if i call you joe? do you know the reason? >> i'll let you answer ha. >> she kept messing up his name and calling him joe o'biden. >> here's our last one. this one is different because it's purely visual. let's look at this one. >> that's okay. >> george h.w. bush in 1992. >> that's right. looking at his watch in the middle of the debate. like he had somewhere better to be. >> got to feed the meter. >> the one you didn't get that made me nervous as a staffer, al gore sighing. >> oh, yes, yes. >> talk about tea baits having an impact. gore was an an incline coming up and the debates stalled him out. >> as we're going out, we won't make this one a question. this is just parker doing her bill clinton impression. >> in my state when people lose their jobs, there's a good chance i'll know them by their name. >> yes. parker can feel your pain just like bill clinton. i think one of the tasks for mitt romney
. >> sarah palin versus joe biden, very good. >> i was bringing up another one. that was lipstick on a pig. >> do you know why she came out and asked him is it okay if i call you joe? do you know the reason? >> i'll let you answer ha. >> she kept messing up his name and calling him joe o'biden. >> here's our last one. this one is different because it's purely visual. let's look at this one. >> that's okay. >> george h.w. bush in 1992. >>...
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biden will be counseled on how to avoid mr. obama's mistakes and even correct them with a more aggressive prosecution of the republican ticket. it's a lot of pressure that could backfire. >> it's interesting going forward into this week, i think it puts pressure on joe biden maybe exactly what the obama team didn't want, which is biden to feel the pressure of having to do well, which maybe is not a good place for biden to be. >> let me bring in white house reporter for "the new york times" peter baker. peter, thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> what's your anticipation here? i think it's obvious what happened with the president debate puts a lot of pressure on joe biden to perform exceptionally but it puts pressure for different reasons on congressman ryan. >> absolutely. look, there's a momentum at this point for governor romney coming out of last week's debate. it stole the opportunity for the obama campaign to kind of cement what had been building into a modest lead. so, you know, people don't tend
biden will be counseled on how to avoid mr. obama's mistakes and even correct them with a more aggressive prosecution of the republican ticket. it's a lot of pressure that could backfire. >> it's interesting going forward into this week, i think it puts pressure on joe biden maybe exactly what the obama team didn't want, which is biden to feel the pressure of having to do well, which maybe is not a good place for biden to be. >> let me bring in white house reporter for "the new...
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47% comment to the greatest effect. >> big ups to joe biden for rocking the polo shirt. i can't think of the last time someone on a ticket has made such a bold choice. look at the contrast here between joe biden who's setting the issues on the table and paul ryan who frankly doesn't look very gracious when you're asked about missteps on the ticket, if you want to do anything, and i think this is communications and politics 101, if you want to do anything talk about your own missteps. you're the number 2 guy. you're not there to remind people about how your boss made a big error that wasn't just style but was also substance. >> paul ryan was also asked why the romney/ryan team is trailing in the polls. let's listen to his response to that. >> it kind of goes without saying that there is definitely media bias. i think most people in main stream media are left of center and therefore they want a left of center president versus the conservative president like mitt romney. >> the old blame the media. you know you're in trouble when you blame the media for where your campaign
47% comment to the greatest effect. >> big ups to joe biden for rocking the polo shirt. i can't think of the last time someone on a ticket has made such a bold choice. look at the contrast here between joe biden who's setting the issues on the table and paul ryan who frankly doesn't look very gracious when you're asked about missteps on the ticket, if you want to do anything, and i think this is communications and politics 101, if you want to do anything talk about your own missteps....
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chris dodd, joe biden, hillary clinton just ran circles around him. and people say, well, why can't he -- at some point you just have to say, because he doesn't have his -- i mean, a great of a grasp on the issues as the people he's debating. >> that's sobering but it's true. i still believe it's the professor. >> how can you be president of the united states, mark halperin, and, i mean, and not have these basic answers? >> well, it's more than i think the format than not having the answers. he spent a lot of the evening going after mitt romney for things that he thinks he can win the election on like taxes and medicare. it wasn't like he never responded to it. >> but isn't the format in washington is that you get in a room with someone and you go at it and you try and figure it out? >> that's what we're asking. has he been too isolated? listen, we talked to him. the guy is brilliant. he really is. but has he become so isolated there's not the back-and-forth with even democratic leadership? because the democrats will tell you, he doesn't talk to them
chris dodd, joe biden, hillary clinton just ran circles around him. and people say, well, why can't he -- at some point you just have to say, because he doesn't have his -- i mean, a great of a grasp on the issues as the people he's debating. >> that's sobering but it's true. i still believe it's the professor. >> how can you be president of the united states, mark halperin, and, i mean, and not have these basic answers? >> well, it's more than i think the format than not...
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. >> does this put a lot of pressure on joe biden to be a clear winner, at least break even with paul ryan next week in the vice presidential debate? >> i don't think any one event is going to decide this election. you've seen the past year and a half the polls are xloes aclose competitive in key states. you saw the economic choice start to crystallize. and us winning key battles on issues like taxes when people think it's krizy mitt romney would raise taxes on middle class families to pay for tax cuts on millionaires and billionaires. mitt romney called him intellectual head of the republican party. so we anticipate stiff competition on the stage next week as well. >> ben labolt, thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. >> where does the race go from here? the strategy section next on "andrea mitchell reports." d a br new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. try this... bayer? t
. >> does this put a lot of pressure on joe biden to be a clear winner, at least break even with paul ryan next week in the vice presidential debate? >> i don't think any one event is going to decide this election. you've seen the past year and a half the polls are xloes aclose competitive in key states. you saw the economic choice start to crystallize. and us winning key battles on issues like taxes when people think it's krizy mitt romney would raise taxes on middle class families...
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but i think joe biden and paul ryan might be very evenly matched because of course joe biden was in the senate for 36 years, because he knows the federal government inside and out. and paul ryan jokes how he has been reading federal budget since he was 22 years old. so they both will have a lot of data, obviously coming at it have different perspectives, but i think they will be very well matched. >> thank you both so much. and back to the white house, mike with a good sunday to you. >> hi, alex. >> let's check out the president's schedule, what does it look like? >> well, he left a very rainy office, and is on his way to california. whenever a democratic president goes to california, that is usually to raise money. and indeed, the president has several fundraisers scheduled in california, in los angeles, including at the nokia center, with jennifer hudson, and katy perry, friends tell me she is pretty cool. he goes on to san francisco, california, for more fundraising in between, and he will be there for a dedication of the national monument, to caesar chavez, a hero. and let me check
but i think joe biden and paul ryan might be very evenly matched because of course joe biden was in the senate for 36 years, because he knows the federal government inside and out. and paul ryan jokes how he has been reading federal budget since he was 22 years old. so they both will have a lot of data, obviously coming at it have different perspectives, but i think they will be very well matched. >> thank you both so much. and back to the white house, mike with a good sunday to you....
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also, the biden ryan debate in kentucky. will the vice president avoid any quote bumps in the road as the president described his own performance over the weekend and how will paul ryan perform on the biggest stage of his career. plus, you say tomato. i say electoral. find out how some trade decisions could affect the election in some key states. good morning, it's monday, october 8th, 2012. i'm chuck todd. i know some of you are celebrating as if this is some federal holiday. there is no day off when it's 29 days until the november election. if mitt romney is going to be president of the united states, then next week, iowa and ohio will be coin flip races. we're seeing a more confidence mitt romney on the trail. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. you had the chance to hear his answers or non answers. now, of course, days later, we're hearing his excuses. >> but while the romney campaign body language has changed, both are anxiously awaiting the first good post debate polls. those will give us
also, the biden ryan debate in kentucky. will the vice president avoid any quote bumps in the road as the president described his own performance over the weekend and how will paul ryan perform on the biggest stage of his career. plus, you say tomato. i say electoral. find out how some trade decisions could affect the election in some key states. good morning, it's monday, october 8th, 2012. i'm chuck todd. i know some of you are celebrating as if this is some federal holiday. there is no day...
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joe biden, paul ryan. thanks for being us with tonight. good night from denver.
joe biden, paul ryan. thanks for being us with tonight. good night from denver.
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thursday between joe biden and paul ryan voters will get a chance to hear what candidates have to say about a host of issues beyond budget, policy and health care. things like voting rights, women's rights, topics that were omitted last week between president obama and romney. the issue of sensible gun laws. the first presidential debate took place a short distance from aurora, colorado. a victim had a message for the candidates in an ad that airs during the debate. >> this past summer in a movie theater in colorado, i was shot. shot in the face and neck. but i was lucky. in the next four years, 48,000 americans won't be so lucky because they will be murdered with guns in the next president's term. enough to fill 200 theaters. when you watch the presidential debates, ask yourself, who has a plan to stop gun violence? let's demand a plan. it didn't get an area. joining us is comedian chris. john warner and rebecca, contributor to the magazine. i feel of two minds about the debate. focus is good. depth is good. i was appreciative they allowed depth on the issues they talked about, but f
thursday between joe biden and paul ryan voters will get a chance to hear what candidates have to say about a host of issues beyond budget, policy and health care. things like voting rights, women's rights, topics that were omitted last week between president obama and romney. the issue of sensible gun laws. the first presidential debate took place a short distance from aurora, colorado. a victim had a message for the candidates in an ad that airs during the debate. >> this past summer in...
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the fact we've got biden's going to be great. if nothing else i guarantee you it will be very entertaining to watch joe biden and paul ryan. and there again, i think there is an opportunity to -- i think romney's gotten some deserved momentum out of -- he had a very strong performance. he's gotten a momentum. i think his campaign is trying to figure out how to keep that momentum going into next week. the debate might be where that momentum is blunted a little bit. joe biden is going to say look, paul, how much time do you need? here's a white board. here's a pen. how much time do you need to do the math? we're here for you. let's work it out. >> hey rich, how much in terms of paul ryan, how much do you think is resting on his shoulders? how do you think he's going to fare against joe biden? he's a lot younger, doesn't have as much debate experience. >> that's not true. they're both members of congress. they have a lot of debate -- that's what you do in congress whether it's in committee or on the floor. i think they will both be
the fact we've got biden's going to be great. if nothing else i guarantee you it will be very entertaining to watch joe biden and paul ryan. and there again, i think there is an opportunity to -- i think romney's gotten some deserved momentum out of -- he had a very strong performance. he's gotten a momentum. i think his campaign is trying to figure out how to keep that momentum going into next week. the debate might be where that momentum is blunted a little bit. joe biden is going to say...
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where were you when you heard joe biden yesterday? >> i don't remember. because we don't see this as a tremendous deal. the romney campaign is good at jumping on whatever out of context comment of the day is, what they're not good at is understanding the challenges that middle class face. the fact that they don't believe the middle class bore the biggest brunt of the economic crisis is born out in your poll today. and a number of other polls that mitt romney doesn't understand the challenges that the middle class faces. what joe biden was saying, at which he often says on the campaign trail, is that because of the policies of the last administration and some of the same policies that mitt romney and paul ryan want to go back to, the middle class was severely punished and has take an while to bounce back. but the president has put the middle class at the center of everything that he has done over the past four years and he'll talk about that tonight. >> now, one of the things that the republicans are sure to talk about tonight is debt. trillions of dollars
where were you when you heard joe biden yesterday? >> i don't remember. because we don't see this as a tremendous deal. the romney campaign is good at jumping on whatever out of context comment of the day is, what they're not good at is understanding the challenges that middle class face. the fact that they don't believe the middle class bore the biggest brunt of the economic crisis is born out in your poll today. and a number of other polls that mitt romney doesn't understand the...
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something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina, by our dear friend joe biden. roll it. >> the romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle-class families with a child, one or more children, by an additional $2,000 a year. how -- all kidding aside, with all the boos, look, guys, this is deadly earnest, man. this is deadly earnest! how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that's been buried the last four years, how in lord's name can they justify? >> god bless him. >> mark mckinnon -- i love him. mike, we love him. we love him! has anybody not told him, they've been in the white house for the past four years? buried? the middle class has been buried over the past four years. >> joe, i am being deadly earnest now, man. deadly earnest. okay? on how anybody -- how anybody can attempt to bury the vice president is beyond me. >> i'm not trying to bury him. i got a good laugh out of it. mark mckinnon, you think we may hear the middle class has been buried over the past four years? >> 47%, especially tonight. >> and it's fresh. >>
something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina, by our dear friend joe biden. roll it. >> the romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle-class families with a child, one or more children, by an additional $2,000 a year. how -- all kidding aside, with all the boos, look, guys, this is deadly earnest, man. this is deadly earnest! how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that's been buried the last four years, how in lord's name can...
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>> you may have overlooked the fact that for the last few weeks i've been joe biden. >> mr. olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or could persuade him on this issue. don't under state the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because they might co
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paul ryan did not miss the opportunity to seize on biden's choice of words. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. of course the middle class has been buried. they're being buried by regulations. they're being buried by taxes. they're being buried by borrowing. they're being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> the romney campaign also chimed in on twitter writing agree with joe biden. the middle class has been buried the last four years which is why we need a change in november, #can'tafford4more. >>> later that today in asheville, north carolina vice president biden clarified that the middle class was buried by the policies that romney and ryan supported. see if you're convinced by that recovery. >>> also yesterday, a video was relesioned by the daily caller, featuring then senator barack obama speaking to a group of african-american religious leaders in 2007. they are billing the video as a bombshell labelling it obama's other race speech. the video's publication widely seen as an
paul ryan did not miss the opportunity to seize on biden's choice of words. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. of course the middle class has been buried. they're being buried by regulations. they're being buried by taxes. they're being buried by borrowing. they're being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> the romney campaign also chimed in on twitter writing agree with joe...
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joe biden was in florida talking to voters in fort myers. he blamed the bush administration for the country's high deficit. >>> tens of thousands hit the streets in the capital of spain to protest the pain of austerity cuts. crowds are angry about tax hikes, government spending cuts and unemployment rate. now back to "lockup." >>> utah state prison is an institution in flux constantly adjusting to the changes in the state's evolving criminal landscape, especially the trend of younger and more violent inmates coming into the system. many of these men also come to the prison affiliated with a gang. inside utah state prison, there are more than 150 recognized gangs. prison officials say the white supremacists pose one of the greatest threats. >> my whole family's skin heads. i was raised that way. my dad, my uncles, all my cousins. i been getting tattoos since i was 13 years old. once you start getting tattoos, it's addicting. the ink is addicting. the pain, to an extent, to me, is addicting. >> curtis allgier is serving 1 to 15 years for burgl
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struck by seeing a lot of scott brown signs and a lot of elizabeth warren signs and a lot of obama/biden signs and not a single romney sign evident anywhere i went in western and central massachusetts all weekend long. i wonder if scott brown could do anything to make himself seem like a nonrepublican nominee at this point that you think would be credible. is there a way to separate himself? >> no. he's trying very hard, but it's not credible. he's sending out e-mails. we have seen the documents where he says, give me money so i can block the obama agenda. elect me so i can be a part of the check on president obama. we also have his voting record. it was noted that of the first 32 votes on breaking filibusters when scott brown was in the senate, he voted with his republican colleagues 30 of the 32 times. he will try hard to dissemble. the notion he hasn't made up his mind for majority leader is one of the least honest things i have heard said. and he's going to have the -- this is going to be his serious bump. he's going to vote to make the most right wingers -- in power, a man who would
struck by seeing a lot of scott brown signs and a lot of elizabeth warren signs and a lot of obama/biden signs and not a single romney sign evident anywhere i went in western and central massachusetts all weekend long. i wonder if scott brown could do anything to make himself seem like a nonrepublican nominee at this point that you think would be credible. is there a way to separate himself? >> no. he's trying very hard, but it's not credible. he's sending out e-mails. we have seen the...
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how does it contrast with joe biden's? >> he's a straight shooter so i think we want to stay opinion himself. not try to project an aura that really isn't him. >> comparity joe biden has been on that debate stage a time or two, he really understands and how to perform under that pressure. this is all paul ryan's and he wants to let people know who he is and the things he believes in. he's a very staunch conservative and holds very close views that he's proud of and he wants to be able to explain to people why he believe what is he believes and why he thinks a romney ryan administration ould -- >> i think he's the guy who wants to keep everything on the economy. everybody will agree that he has studied it inside out. he knows what he thinks based on preparation and study. >> this is a 90-minute debate so obviously we're going to talk a lot about the economy. so the campaign officials working with paul rye yachb have been bringing him up to speed. the believing books. >> >> he ethey want to get -- >> something that we have h
how does it contrast with joe biden's? >> he's a straight shooter so i think we want to stay opinion himself. not try to project an aura that really isn't him. >> comparity joe biden has been on that debate stage a time or two, he really understands and how to perform under that pressure. this is all paul ryan's and he wants to let people know who he is and the things he believes in. he's a very staunch conservative and holds very close views that he's proud of and he wants to be...
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paul ryan campaigned in the morning, and joe biden appeared in fort myers in florida. >>> halting a los angeles project called carmageddon two. they don't expect any delays on one of the nation's busiest freeways. now back to "lockup." >>> among the challenges facing officials at kern valley state prison is the growing number of inmates with long-term sentences because typically this population is the most angry and the most violent. the staff knows the importance of keeping these men occupied. there are 1,300 inmates serving life sentences at kern valley. their crimes were often cold-blooded. >> i'm here for aggravated mayhem, attempted murder, kidnapping, and great bodily injury. >> i'm in here for the heat of passion. i caught my wife with somebody and killed her. >> for some of these inmates, the prospect of spending decades behind bars affects their ability to function. for others, a prison job can give them a sense of purpose. they work in the kitchen preparing and serving the food. they serve as porters, clerks, and barbers. marcus armstrong and jeffrey cattera know it's likely t
paul ryan campaigned in the morning, and joe biden appeared in fort myers in florida. >>> halting a los angeles project called carmageddon two. they don't expect any delays on one of the nation's busiest freeways. now back to "lockup." >>> among the challenges facing officials at kern valley state prison is the growing number of inmates with long-term sentences because typically this population is the most angry and the most violent. the staff knows the importance of...
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it's going to be on joe biden because they can't have two bad debate performances in a row. then suddenly a one-night story becomes a narrative. right. >> it's a different ball game than four years ago. >>> still ahead, senior advisers to the obama and romney campaigns, david axelrod and ed gillespie join us coming up on "morning joe." ♪ [ male announcer ] finally, mom's oven-baked tastes straight from the microwave. like oven-roasted chicken in a creamy alfredo sauce. marie callender's new comfort bakes. it's time to savor. ♪ [ multiple sounds making melodic tune ] ♪ [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, every innovation, every solution, comes together for a single purpose -- to make the world a safer place. that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. at unitedhealthcare insurance company, we understand that commitment. and always have. so does aarp, an organization serving the needs of americans 50 and over for ge
it's going to be on joe biden because they can't have two bad debate performances in a row. then suddenly a one-night story becomes a narrative. right. >> it's a different ball game than four years ago. >>> still ahead, senior advisers to the obama and romney campaigns, david axelrod and ed gillespie join us coming up on "morning joe." ♪ [ male announcer ] finally, mom's oven-baked tastes straight from the microwave. like oven-roasted chicken in a creamy alfredo...